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		<title>By: Email Marketing Industry Trends &#171; The Lunch Pail</title>
		<link>http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/08/28/good-email-marketing-shouldnt-cost-more/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Email Marketing Industry Trends &#171; The Lunch Pail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] modifying your approach to email marketing isn&#8217;t scary, it&#8217;s necessary. Most of all, demand more from your email partners by exercising your leverage with them (&#8230; that&#8217;s something most [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] modifying your approach to email marketing isn&#8217;t scary, it&#8217;s necessary. Most of all, demand more from your email partners by exercising your leverage with them (&#8230; that&#8217;s something most [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Gordon</title>
		<link>http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/08/28/good-email-marketing-shouldnt-cost-more/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian has posted a follow up to these comments: http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/06/good-email-still-shouldn%e2%80%99t-cost-more/

Bryce has some additional tips on this concept here: http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/13/is-small-ball-a-good-online-marketing-strategy/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian has posted a follow up to these comments: <a href="http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/06/good-email-still-shouldn%e2%80%99t-cost-more/" rel="nofollow">http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/06/good-email-still-shouldn%e2%80%99t-cost-more/</a></p>
<p>Bryce has some additional tips on this concept here: <a href="http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/13/is-small-ball-a-good-online-marketing-strategy/" rel="nofollow">http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/10/13/is-small-ball-a-good-online-marketing-strategy/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gramatr</title>
		<link>http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/08/28/good-email-marketing-shouldnt-cost-more/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gramatr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian - 
I find myself agreeing with your assessment that good email programs should not be unreasonably costly, but Elana has a point that complete infrastructure overhauls are unrealistic. I have implemented both large (100 million+ individuals with 2 billion+ transactions) and small scale marketing databases and in ALL cases, data integration (more accurately ETL) is the key to successful systems and resulting campaigns. I believe that in too many cases vendors scare clients into implementing huge database systems (that they claim will fix their pre-existing problems) rather than spending the requisite time interpreting and implementing ETL processes that will ensure the target system (large / small / discrete or integrated) is working with clean, consistent, accurate data. Analysis, modeling, campaign management, segmentation, etc. are all impacted by the data in the database and are only as useful as the the foundation of information they start with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211;<br />
I find myself agreeing with your assessment that good email programs should not be unreasonably costly, but Elana has a point that complete infrastructure overhauls are unrealistic. I have implemented both large (100 million+ individuals with 2 billion+ transactions) and small scale marketing databases and in ALL cases, data integration (more accurately ETL) is the key to successful systems and resulting campaigns. I believe that in too many cases vendors scare clients into implementing huge database systems (that they claim will fix their pre-existing problems) rather than spending the requisite time interpreting and implementing ETL processes that will ensure the target system (large / small / discrete or integrated) is working with clean, consistent, accurate data. Analysis, modeling, campaign management, segmentation, etc. are all impacted by the data in the database and are only as useful as the the foundation of information they start with.</p>
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		<title>By: Elana Anderson</title>
		<link>http://lunchpail.knotice.com/2008/08/28/good-email-marketing-shouldnt-cost-more/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elana Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi there -
Your commentary is nice, but unrealistic. I work with a lot of large companies, very large companies. What do you suggest? Implode all of the operational systems and start from scratch? It&#039;s simply unrealistic... The fact is that information about customers comes from many systems across many channels. Your comments are fine, but you&#039;re talking about this issue on a totally different level that doesn&#039;t recognize the complexity of business reality. You&#039;re right, fragmentation is crappy, but it&#039;s a fact of business life for anything but a greenfields startup...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there -<br />
Your commentary is nice, but unrealistic. I work with a lot of large companies, very large companies. What do you suggest? Implode all of the operational systems and start from scratch? It&#8217;s simply unrealistic&#8230; The fact is that information about customers comes from many systems across many channels. Your comments are fine, but you&#8217;re talking about this issue on a totally different level that doesn&#8217;t recognize the complexity of business reality. You&#8217;re right, fragmentation is crappy, but it&#8217;s a fact of business life for anything but a greenfields startup&#8230;</p>
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